Why is the sky, or a flower, or a baby, etc, all supposed to be proof of god?

What about earthquakes, and childhood cancer, deformities, and forest fires, etc? Those are apparently proof of man%26#039;s sin, correct?





What kind of being would tease you with a beautiful flower and then curse your child with cancer for the sin of other humans? Is this really an acceptable god to you? %26quot;Look what I can do but too bad for you, your grandparents to the Nth degree messed up%26quot;.

Why is the sky, or a flower, or a baby, etc, all supposed to be proof of god?
The %26quot;argument from stuff%26quot; really does nothing to answer any questions. If a tree requires a creator, why would I have to assume the same one made the trees that also did the rocks? Why not a whole host of specific item gods? In fact, I don%26#039;t think that any argument they use would lead one naturally to think that only their God is responsible for anything. They just use that as an assumption.
Reply:%26quot;What about earthquakes, and childhood cancer, deformities, and forest fires, etc? Those are apparently proof of man%26#039;s sin, correct?%26quot;





Nope, still proof of God. Cause and effect would seem to point towards creation requiring a creator.
Reply:%26quot;Bad things%26quot; aren%26#039;t curses from God. All circumstances in life result from self-created karma.
Reply:sometimes things don%26#039;t make sense..but i believe we are all her for a purpose and when we reach our purpose we go back to god...but sometimes his plans are interrupted by evil aka the devil. see god doesn%26#039;t control our life%26#039;s he gives us the freedom to develop like a flower does in our own time..and although seeing a child go through pain or see people die is horrible, but lessons are sometimes taught the hard way. what you should take from those situations is, life isn%26#039;t perminate and the people you love can go at anytime in any situation, so always be there, and live with then to the fullest while you have the option..don%26#039;t take health or life for granted..that%26#039;s how you build appreciation for living.
Reply:The devil did it!
Reply:Only God could create such beautiful things. Disease and natural disasters aren%26#039;t God%26#039;s way of %26quot;cursing%26quot; us, they are just things you have to go through in life. God never promised life without trials, but he did promise us the strength to overcome those trials.
Reply:Nothing is good or bad from system%26#039;s perspective. It%26#039;s going on and will go on as per the defined rules and regulation. With the frame-work of this system, we have created our own false World, with the help of mind. Mind is in a habit of categorizing good and bad for it%26#039;s own existence. What ever it likes, it tries to repeat, which is a greed. What ever it dislikes, it tries to avoid, which is a fear.
Reply:All of the credit and none of the blame. The job of deity sounds like a pretty good one.
Reply:I don%26#039;t think the occupation of God is to create or explain all of the %26quot;whys%26quot; or things your referring to.





Couldn%26#039;t God possibly be very different from that, ie have a different role than %26quot;causing%26quot; things?





Maybe he only caused the universe to a certain point and then after that he doesn%26#039;t control or create further.











What is here is doing the causing. Maybe that is what is referred to as %26quot;free will%26quot;.





This seems so obvious to me. Why would it elude anyone?





I admit, I may be a complete idiot here but I have not heard anything else that makes sense.
Reply:cuz He made them.
Reply:Ever question why a book written several thousand years ago can be so accurate and things that are happening and have happened were predicted long, long ago? What more proof do you people need?


God did not curse a child with cancer, neither did HE curse humans with Illness! Satan did! Until you understand who%26#039;s on your side and what%26#039;s happening in your world, you%26#039;ll always have hatred and be anger. That%26#039;s how cunning and confusing satan can be!
Reply:What%26#039;s sad is they actually WILL defend that. Tsk tsk..
Reply:Then you have to look at all of the subjective beauty. How much of it can be attributed to God? I consider a decaying building to be one of the most beautiful things on this planet, while most consider it an eyesore. So, is that a blessing or a curse from said deity?
Reply:The ignorant love to blame things on the %26quot;supernatural%26quot; because they don%26#039;t know of any other way to deal with it. If they had any smarts, then they wouldn%26#039;t need mythology to explain things for them...simple minds need simple explanations.
Reply:go to site.if you really want to get answers , true, answers , because altho people on here give you very good answers you still dont want to accept them you will always have your excuse to not believing so then why ask. this site is chuck full of almost any question you have and most of it is audio . and if you dont want to accept that than do you really want to know the truth at all, or are you still going to make excuses.


http://christianity.com/FAQ/Channel.aspx...
Reply:when sin entered the world...








sin, disease, etc....Satan can and will change and deform things....





radiation poisoning,chemical pollution, pesticides, drugs, eating unclean things, food dyes and additives...








a child is sick...what was that child fed for years and years? powdered infant formula, processed , chemical additives and food dies, unclean food products, etc...





I am surprised that more children are not developing cancerous diseases considering how many happy meals are stuffed into them each week!!





man made the choice... don%26#039;t blame God for the bad choice of man...
Reply:James 1:7 %26quot;Every good thing given and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father%26quot;





Catholics believe there is also a Devil in the world (Jesus%26#039; temptation in the desert, for example, which we could only know about from Him) and what did he do : Through the envy of the devil, death entered into the world





So I can%26#039;t subscribe to your childishly simplistic view of the world, not in 2008. Everything is from the great Womanspirit.


Balderdash.
Reply:Because the world is flooded with frustrated poets that flunked undergraduate philosophy.
Reply:God%26#039;s desire is for worship based on free will; much of what you%26#039;re discussing is part of that.





God is interested in your soul%26#039;s final resting place; not this temporary weigh station.





So are you saying that because evil is in the world you can%26#039;t believe in God? How shallow...
Reply:The FSM does wondrous things, but he cannot always clean up after us. If we were more loyal to his saucy goodness, we would all rejoice in the beer volcano while on earth, not having to wait until we reached heaven.





RAmen.
Reply:lol.





i love that.





if its beautiful, it%26#039;s gods doing.


if its ugly, it%26#039;s somehow mans fault.



make up